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Sept. 2009

Recreation Board Meeting
September 10, 2009

Attendance: Diane Betz, Jessica Cicchinelli, Bruce Deakyne, Tyler Dewitt, Eric Economy, Michelle Elvig, Colin Finch, George Hoey, Cheryl Kent, Herb Kienle, Nan Lu, Ashley Michelson, Lindsay Spangler, Theresa Vertucci

  1. Call to order & Approval of minutes
    1. 5:37pm
    2. Make corrections to minutes then they will be approved
  1. Chair’s Report
    1. TBA
  1. Director’s & Executive team member reports
    1. New Hires in Outdoor Program
    2. Tim: revenues are up by $4,000
      1. Some numbers we cannot handle – intramurals and instruction programs
      2. Numbers are on the rise
        1. We have to turn people away due to our facility
    3. Nan: We went to finance board
        1. And got what we wanted approved
        2. And will be able to fix our elevator
    4. Diane: we are standing on request from inside groups and outside groups
      1. The economy has not effected the rentals
      2. Student groups are getting more active now that school has started
    5. Herb: Funds were approved for the elevator and will be done by January
      1. We looked into automatic doors but unfortunately it will be too expensive
      2. Women’s sauna is down for repairs
        1. The issue is getting males into the women’s locker room to fix it
        2. We are pushing to get this done as soon as possible

 

  1. UCSU Report
  1. Program area liaison reports, if any
    1. 6:30 training meeting for all Rec center employees (Sunday, September 13th)

 

  1. Old Business
    1. New Rec Board Meeting time
      1. There are several time conflicts for members of the board
        1. Nan: Try Tuesdays & get what is most important out of the way at the beginning of the meeting.
          1. Tuesday we will have some conflicts with finance board
      2. Meetings will start at 5:30pm every other Tuesday
        1. If we have full agendas we will be meeting every Tuesday
        2. We will be meeting next Tuesday (9/15)
    2. Feasibility Study
  1. New Business
    1. Ashley’s Announcement
      1. After school started, tri exec offered Ashley a position on their committee ( position: neighborhood and city relations)
        1. She has chosen to take the position and will have to resign from the Rec Board according to the bylaws, but she will try to attend rec board meetings as much as she can.
    2. New member recruitment
      1. We need 2 members
        1. One vice president
    3.  Feasibility study update
      1. Met with student affairs leadership team
        1. The need is obvious
        2. Need more detail with the master plan
        3. Need to bring in a consultant
      2. Not moving as fast as we would like
      3. Tom Goodhew (tri exec) informed us that one of the vice chancellors are behind us on the feasibility study and would like to have it done by the spring referendum
        1. Can be done in 3-4 months but it is not recommend & might not be the best thing to do
      4. If we don’t get it to pass it is going to be harder in the future to get it passed
    4. Diane’s facility requests
      1. Tabled for Tuesday
    5. NIRSA/Big 12 Conference
    6. Swim Team proposal
      1. Objective is to obtain lanes 1-8 of the competition pool for CU swim and dive practice, Monday-Friday 3:30-5:30pm
      2. Numbers are up – 90 people have already paid dues
        1. Last year had 75 swimmers paid dues on time
      3. 4 lanes in Clare Small
        1. 2 large lanes, 2 small end lanes
        2. Typically there are 12 swimmers in each lane
      4. The idea is to have recreation swimmers use Clare Small while the swim team uses the competition pool
      5. 8.5 recreational swimmers on average during 3:30-5:30 in the competition pool
      6. CU swim team wants to provide a successful opportunity for swimmers to have optimal practice space
        1. If the swim team moves to the competition pool, there will be 8 swimmers per lane
      7. We have given the CU swim team 2 lanes in the competition pool since 2003
      8. CU swim team would consider using only 7 lanes instead of 8 lanes in the competition pool
        1. Leave the handicap lane open
      9. Barb: if we switch recreation swimmers over to the Clare Small pool, then we have 3 pools that we need to have guarded, which would mean that we need to increase the number of lifeguards on staff
        1. As far as the handicap lane goes, the ramp is very difficult to take in and out of the pool
        2. Suggested to switch shifts (times)
        3. Safety issue – swim coach is “on guard” during practice but there have been recent accidents at other schools and we want to make sure that we are providing a safe environment, so we would need to look deeper into hiring more guards
      10. CU swim team would consider changing their requested times
        1. Anything after 5:30pm Clare Smalls is booked for classes and Masters have the pool in the morning, therefore there is no other good time for the CU swim team to use the comp pool      
      11. Colin: Swimmers arrange their school schedule around swim practice, so it would be hard to change practice times mid-season
        1. The numbers that the CU swim team has given us is based on the first 2 and a half weeks of school
      12. Herb: is concerned about the numbers
        1. The counts were done a random time during the hours of 3:30-5:30pm
          1. A count could have been taken at a time when the whole swim team was doing drills in Clare Smalls
      13. There are days when the swim team crams all 60 swimmers into Clare Small to do drills together so the numbers are skewed in the aspect that some days only a few CU swimmers are using the comp lanes on a given day
      14. Ashley: An issue that should be discussed is the number of lifeguards
        1. One lifeguard can legally only watch 25 people…so if there is 40 people in the comp pool, we are going to need more guards
      15. Cheryl: this is not an all or nothing issue. What about giving them a few days a week
        1. Cheryl wants to help the CU club team lower their drop rate
      16. The lanes in the comp pool are significantly larger than the lanes in Clare Small
        1. Also there is no wake
      17. Ashley: Try out their proposal for a week and see how it works and the feedback we receive. Then try giving them only 7 lanes or a few days week
      18. Jessica spoke with swimmers during the spring about the issue.
        1. One man told her that he would be less satisfied but he would swim in Clare Small if that was his only option
        2. Jessica wants to make sure that recreation swimmers know that there are other options
          1. Most do not know about the Clare Small pool
      19. Colin: we have the built in flexibility to give the CU Swim team a two week trial and if it does not work out, we can deny their request
        1. Our main goal is to Serve the Students
          1. If it means losing 2 rec members to make 80 students happy, then it would be worth it
          2. We are already dissatisfying students in intramurals, instructional program, etc… because we have limited facility space
      20. Tim: there is no win here. Somebody is going to lose
        1. What about giving the swim team 2 lanes in the comp pool and let them use it for the month of September. Then reassess this issue in October and look at the numbers and the reactions of rec swimmers 
      21. Since two pools are being used, it cuts their coaching time in half because Lynn is running in between both pools
        1. It also takes away some unity of the team because the comp pool swimmers finish before the swimmers in Clare Small
      22. Theresa: cannot see giving peak hours to the CU swim team
        1. Why is swim team different from other club sports? Many club sports are dealing with facility issues too.
          1. Most club sports are only allowed to have a certain number of participants at a time. As for swimming, you are allowed to enter as many swimmers as you want in a meet.
            1. They allow every individual to compete at whatever level they would like
        2. Does not want this proposal to limit students who are full paying and use the comp pool during the peak hours
          1. The CU swim team does not cut anyone; everyone can swim at any level that they want
      23. Herb: thinks that it is an arrogant attitude to only accept an all or nothing proposal. He thinks that they should try out Tim’s suggestion to a trial run of 2 comp lanes during the month of September
      24. Eric suggested to raise the dues so that the CU swim team can afford to have an assistant coach. That way they will not be running from one pool to the other
      25. The rec center offers a lot of programs to teach people to swim
      26. Tyler: Hockey and lacrosse club pay close to $2,000. The CU swim team pays only $200. He would like them to come back to us with what it would cost to raise a new coach.
      27. John: master swim was based on the time frame – there are not too many rec swimmers at that time. John thinks that it is time to make a motion and vote on it.
      28. Eric thinks that the lanes for handicaps should always be open

 

Eric made a motion to allow the CU swim team to have 7 lanes in the comp pool for 2 weeks and to have a follow up with the numbers to hire another coach.
No one seconded it.

Tyler made a motion to give the CU swim team 7 lanes in the comp pool but only on MWF, then to reassess the proposal. Also to come back to us with numbers for hiring another coach.
Eric seconds the motion.

  1. Diane asks that we wait till Wednesday to start so that we can inform rec swimmers with signs about the change going on.
  2. It will start next Wednesday, September, 16th and go till the 25th
  3. Herb: there needs to be a formal way for rec swimmers to give us feedback

 

Motion Passes 5-0

 

  1. Announcements
  1. Adjournment 6:49pm