Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] sustainability and the economy and Douglas

Thanks for your reply Curtiss, seems we have similar problems regarding the
management/containment of a lifetime's worth of information, though the book
you've mentioned is not (yet :) part of my experience. Despite that wealth
of information and a lifetime of environmental concern/activism I was 50
years old before being introduced to Social Credit ideas over the Internet
by Jim Schroeder form Alberta and Joe Thomson in BC. After all these years
of searching for better answers, I was immediately struck by the relevance
of Douglas' ideas to environmentally sustainable production/consumption.

As an aside- I don't see a great need to change the Social Credit name since
most people know nothing about it. (e.g. I've been experimenting going
around and asking various people in Ontario, England and Germany whether
they know where the money banks lend comes from? And so far not one single
person thought anything other than banks were/are lending out existing
deposits/savings). Regardless of name, the task surely must be to present
these ideas to the environmental/Green movement and anti-war activists, who
need to pick up and understand Social Credit theory in order for them to be
able to work effectively against wasteful production/consumption and the
export of surplus in the from of destructive military expenditure/war.

 My youngest brother is a biochemist and he would agree absolutely with you
when you say  " I see the U.S. as this character.  We are sucking up the
last decades of fossil fuel, on a trajectory for suicide." He thinks it is a
crime against future generations, that the amazing chemical
properties/potentials locked up in oil/coal are being wasted by a simply
silly system which stupidly reconverts these magic materials into
combustible energy.
My second brother an engineer/inventor always tells me that given the right
willpower & correct financial directives inventive engineers will produce
processes which reduce energy consumption to a fraction, as well as
manufacturing quality products that will last a lifetime.
I have yet to meet an inventor (engineer or chemist) who does not prefer to
make things which are really useful, durable, and elegant -not only in
external design- but more importantly in the way it functions using minimum
energy & materials.
Given the right economic understanding of the flow of money/investment there
is absolutely no need for "the despair, the desperation, the agony, the
sadness", because technical solutions will be readily at hand given the
correct financial framework.
My belief/hope is that human mental growth (psychological & philosophical)
will develop in tandem with this movement from quantity to quality.
Regards,
Ekkehard Irion

> Dear folk,
>
> Understand.  I have a brain that is overflowing with
> information.
>
> It hurts sometimes.
>
> Ekky Irion and Keith Wilde responded to my commentary
> about sustainability and growth (or not).
>
> Our lives are shaped in remarkable ways by what we read
> in our youth.  I consider, whether "Animal Farm" or "The
> Time Machine" -- that we are indelibly launched on a social
> mission.
>
> But, there are a few books that ravaged my mind.  One (somewhat
> unrelated) was "In Flander's Fields" by Joseph Conrad.  This
> is a terribly gruesome account of trench warfare in WWI.
>
> But, the recent remarks by Ekky Irion brought to mind the mighty
> novel _On the Beach_ by Nevil Shute
>
> This is a story about the U.S. after a nuclear war (WWIII).
>
> It is a must read, as is Hersey's Hiroshima's book depicting
> the horror of dropping a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima in our
> attempt to end WWII.
>
> ***
>
> What part of the Shute book is pertinent?
>
> Most of the world has too much radiation for life to live in
> this story.
>
> So, somewhere around Australia, some people do survive.
>
> And, there is one character who owns a sports car and
> there is an ever diminishing amount of fuel.
>
> So, (and I am doing this from recollection from 45 years
> ago) that character takes his car for a spin and commits
> suicide by driving off the road.
>
> The despair, the desparation, the agony, the sadness.
>
> But, I see the U.S. as this character.  We are sucking up
> the last decades of fossil fuel, on a trajectory for suicide.
>
> Regards,
>
> Curtiss