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Re: Wesley's historical and biblical view of the world
by W. Curtiss Priest
02 April 2003 18:03 UTC
As some know, I have given a home to Wesley Burt's
charts:
http://www.epie.org/cyber-soc/default.htm
In that Wesley often cites scholars who I recognize
and appreciate, I have attempted to unravel his
messages.
[yes, Wesley, they are a tad difficult to follow, one
would say, polemic, but I do believe you have grains
of truth in what you say.]
So, I received this note in response to Wesley Burt's
material, and thought it was astute:
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:22:41 -0500
From: Leonardo Wild <dlwild@access.net.ec>
Subject: Fear Of The SSGBs who have the Power?
Dear Wesley,
A good book to read about the disruption of today's world's antics is:
VOLTAIR'S BASTARDS: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West, by John
Ralston Saul.
We can reason about stuff forever, but it is reason what has put us in
the mess we are in ... or along those lines.
On a side-note about the reasons for IT ALL.
The Three Structures of Power are:
Economy,
Politics,
Religion.
Communism denied the structure of Religion, so Politics, besides
politics, became the structure of Belief as well (that is, the
Religion).
Capitalism has denied Politics (not important since we live in a
democracy, right?), so Economy has become the structure of Political
control.
Deny one side, and you make it become part of the side that is trying to
deny it.
Now we are having a war that claims it is all about politics (we have
all voted against Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?), but the real
reason is economic.
And the war for the elimination of Iraq's WMDs isn't really a political
reason, but rather just an excuse to push the Law of Economic Power, the
war between the US Dollar and the Euro. But that war would make NO SENSE
at all if money weren't scarce, if money weren't about a struggle for
the monopoly over the motor of Economy (money).
It is not Fear of the SSGBs who have the Power, but rather the Ignorance
that those SSGBs have Power because of HOW money works.
If we try to explain Economy in terms of Politics as if that were the
Religion, we are only muddling up the crystal clear problem Solon
recognized in BC 596 and managed to change ... until the SSGBs who used
money (interest earning dough) to gain control and then Power managed to
abolish Solon's Constitution (no debt, no interest on money, among other
things) and finally the Greek Empire collapsed, and later, for the same
reasons, the Roman Empire collapsed, and now we are at the last step of
that ladder for the very same reasons ....
MONEY that earns interest, today's Religion of the Material God of
Reason.
It shouldn't be a reform of ethics, but a reform of reason.
m = material-mineral
v = life (vegetable)
c = consciousness (animal)
s = self-awareness (human)
Our reason, our science, our technology, deals ONLY with m. But m is
convergent (E=mc2, a + b = c), yet everything starting with v is
divergent (life). THEY haven't even reached v, and they want to make it
all converge on the monetization of the planet? That's their reason,
their reasoning, their reason d'etre.
Make money, control the money, ISSUE the darn thing!
Monopolize it.
Monetize Oil.
Monetize v, c, s.
Change the reason of MONEY and you change reason of Action.
Demonetize War.
No reason for it anymore.
The Holy Cows of Money can forget their Holo Caust.
But if you use THEIR Reason to find a reason for their reasons, you'll
forever converge on m. Morto est.
So what is the reason for IJCCR?
It's not to reason with their Reason, that's a waste of time.
Just a near-midnight ramble from a wild corner of a quiet place in the
Andes ...
Best,
Leonardo Wild
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:22:41 -0500
From: Leonardo Wild <dlwild@access.net.ec>
Subject: Fear Of The SSGBs who have the Power?
Dear Wesley,
A good book to read about the disruption of today's world's antics is:
VOLTAIR'S BASTARDS: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West, by John
Ralston Saul.
We can reason about stuff forever, but it is reason what has put us in
the mess we are in ... or along those lines.
On a side-note about the reasons for IT ALL.
The Three Structures of Power are:
Economy,
Politics,
Religion.
Communism denied the structure of Religion, so Politics, besides
politics, became the structure of Belief as well (that is, the
Religion).
Capitalism has denied Politics (not important since we live in a
democracy, right?), so Economy has become the structure of Political
control.
Deny one side, and you make it become part of the side that is trying to
deny it.
Now we are having a war that claims it is all about politics (we have
all voted against Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?), but the real
reason is economic.
And the war for the elimination of Iraq's WMDs isn't really a political
reason, but rather just an excuse to push the Law of Economic Power, the
war between the US Dollar and the Euro. But that war would make NO SENSE
at all if money weren't scarce, if money weren't about a struggle for
the monopoly over the motor of Economy (money).
It is not Fear of the SSGBs who have the Power, but rather the Ignorance
that those SSGBs have Power because of HOW money works.
If we try to explain Economy in terms of Politics as if that were the
Religion, we are only muddling up the crystal clear problem Solon
recognized in BC 596 and managed to change ... until the SSGBs who used
money (interest earning dough) to gain control and then Power managed to
abolish Solon's Constitution (no debt, no interest on money, among other
things) and finally the Greek Empire collapsed, and later, for the same
reasons, the Roman Empire collapsed, and now we are at the last step of
that ladder for the very same reasons ....
MONEY that earns interest, today's Religion of the Material God of
Reason.
It shouldn't be a reform of ethics, but a reform of reason.
m = material-mineral
v = life (vegetable)
c = consciousness (animal)
s = self-awareness (human)
Our reason, our science, our technology, deals ONLY with m. But m is
convergent (E=mc2, a + b = c), yet everything starting with v is
divergent (life). THEY haven't even reached v, and they want to make it
all converge on the monetization of the planet? That's their reason,
their reasoning, their reason d'etre.
Make money, control the money, ISSUE the darn thing!
Monopolize it.
Monetize Oil.
Monetize v, c, s.
Change the reason of MONEY and you change reason of Action.
Demonetize War.
No reason for it anymore.
The Holy Cows of Money can forget their Holo Caust.
But if you use THEIR Reason to find a reason for their reasons, you'll
forever converge on m. Morto est.
So what is the reason for IJCCR?
It's not to reason with their Reason, that's a waste of time.
Just a near-midnight ramble from a wild corner of a quiet place in the
Andes ...
Best,
Leonardo Wild
[source: Subject: [ijccr] Digest Number 414}
--
W. Curtiss Priest, Director, CITS
Research Affiliate, Culture & Media, MIT
Center for Information, Technology & Society
466 Pleasant St., Melrose, MA 02176
781-662-4044 BMSLIB@MIT.EDU http://Cybertrails.org
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