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Re: Wesley's historical and biblical view of the world

by W. Curtiss Priest

02 April 2003 18:03 UTC


As some know, I have given a home to Wesley Burt's 
charts:

http://www.epie.org/cyber-soc/default.htm

In that Wesley often cites scholars who I recognize
and appreciate, I have attempted to unravel his
messages.

[yes, Wesley, they are a tad difficult to follow, one
would say, polemic, but I do believe you have grains
of truth in what you say.]

So, I received this note in response to Wesley Burt's
material, and thought it was astute:

Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:22:41 -0500
   From: Leonardo Wild <dlwild@access.net.ec>
Subject: Fear Of The SSGBs who have the Power?

Dear Wesley,

A good book to read about the disruption of today's world's antics is:

VOLTAIR'S BASTARDS: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West, by John 
Ralston Saul.

We can reason about stuff forever, but it is reason what has put us in 
the mess we are in ... or along those lines.

On a side-note about the reasons for IT ALL.

The Three Structures of Power are:

Economy,
Politics,
Religion.

Communism denied the structure of Religion, so Politics, besides 
politics, became the structure of Belief as well (that is, the
Religion).

Capitalism has denied Politics (not important since we live in a 
democracy, right?), so Economy has become the structure of Political 
control.

Deny one side, and you make it become part of the side that is trying to 
deny it.

Now we are having a war that claims it is all about politics (we have 
all voted against Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?), but the real 
reason is economic.

And the war for the elimination of Iraq's WMDs isn't really a political 
reason, but rather just an excuse to push the Law of Economic Power, the 
war between the US Dollar and the Euro. But that war would make NO SENSE 
at all if money weren't scarce, if money weren't about a struggle for 
the monopoly over the motor of Economy (money).

It is not Fear of the SSGBs who have the Power, but rather the Ignorance 
that those SSGBs have Power because of HOW money works.

If we try to explain Economy in terms of Politics as if that were the 
Religion, we are only muddling up the crystal clear problem Solon 
recognized in BC 596 and managed to change ... until the SSGBs who used 
money (interest earning dough) to gain control and then Power managed to 
abolish Solon's Constitution (no debt, no interest on money, among other 
things) and finally the Greek Empire collapsed, and later, for the same 
reasons, the Roman Empire collapsed, and now we are at the last step of 
that ladder for the very same reasons ....
MONEY that earns interest, today's Religion of the Material God of
Reason.

It shouldn't be a reform of ethics, but a reform of reason.

m = material-mineral
v = life (vegetable)
c = consciousness (animal)
s = self-awareness (human)

Our reason, our science, our technology, deals ONLY with m. But m is 
convergent (E=mc2, a + b = c), yet everything starting with v is 
divergent (life). THEY haven't even reached v, and they want to make it 
all converge on the monetization of the planet? That's their reason, 
their reasoning, their reason d'etre.
Make money, control the money, ISSUE the darn thing!
Monopolize it.
Monetize Oil.
Monetize v, c, s.

Change the reason of MONEY and you change reason of Action.
Demonetize War.
No reason for it anymore.
The Holy Cows of Money can forget their Holo Caust.

But if you use THEIR Reason to find a reason for their reasons, you'll 
forever converge on m. Morto est.

So what is the reason for IJCCR?

It's not to reason with their Reason, that's a waste of time.

Just a near-midnight ramble from a wild corner of a quiet place in the 
Andes ...

Best,

Leonardo Wild

Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:22:41 -0500
   From: Leonardo Wild <dlwild@access.net.ec>
Subject: Fear Of The SSGBs who have the Power?

Dear Wesley,

A good book to read about the disruption of today's world's antics is:

VOLTAIR'S BASTARDS: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West, by John 
Ralston Saul.

We can reason about stuff forever, but it is reason what has put us in 
the mess we are in ... or along those lines.

On a side-note about the reasons for IT ALL.

The Three Structures of Power are:

Economy,
Politics,
Religion.

Communism denied the structure of Religion, so Politics, besides 
politics, became the structure of Belief as well (that is, the
Religion).

Capitalism has denied Politics (not important since we live in a 
democracy, right?), so Economy has become the structure of Political 
control.

Deny one side, and you make it become part of the side that is trying to 
deny it.

Now we are having a war that claims it is all about politics (we have 
all voted against Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?), but the real 
reason is economic.

And the war for the elimination of Iraq's WMDs isn't really a political 
reason, but rather just an excuse to push the Law of Economic Power, the 
war between the US Dollar and the Euro. But that war would make NO SENSE 
at all if money weren't scarce, if money weren't about a struggle for 
the monopoly over the motor of Economy (money).

It is not Fear of the SSGBs who have the Power, but rather the Ignorance 
that those SSGBs have Power because of HOW money works.

If we try to explain Economy in terms of Politics as if that were the 
Religion, we are only muddling up the crystal clear problem Solon 
recognized in BC 596 and managed to change ... until the SSGBs who used 
money (interest earning dough) to gain control and then Power managed to 
abolish Solon's Constitution (no debt, no interest on money, among other 
things) and finally the Greek Empire collapsed, and later, for the same 
reasons, the Roman Empire collapsed, and now we are at the last step of 
that ladder for the very same reasons ....
MONEY that earns interest, today's Religion of the Material God of
Reason.

It shouldn't be a reform of ethics, but a reform of reason.

m = material-mineral
v = life (vegetable)
c = consciousness (animal)
s = self-awareness (human)

Our reason, our science, our technology, deals ONLY with m. But m is 
convergent (E=mc2, a + b = c), yet everything starting with v is 
divergent (life). THEY haven't even reached v, and they want to make it 
all converge on the monetization of the planet? That's their reason, 
their reasoning, their reason d'etre.
Make money, control the money, ISSUE the darn thing!
Monopolize it.
Monetize Oil.
Monetize v, c, s.

Change the reason of MONEY and you change reason of Action.
Demonetize War.
No reason for it anymore.
The Holy Cows of Money can forget their Holo Caust.

But if you use THEIR Reason to find a reason for their reasons, you'll 
forever converge on m. Morto est.

So what is the reason for IJCCR?

It's not to reason with their Reason, that's a waste of time.

Just a near-midnight ramble from a wild corner of a quiet place in the 
Andes ...

Best,

Leonardo Wild

[source: Subject: [ijccr] Digest Number 414}
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           W. Curtiss Priest, Director, CITS
        Research Affiliate, Culture & Media, MIT
      Center for Information, Technology & Society
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