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Arts and Sciences Core Curriculum Survey - 1997 - Student Comments

Question: "If you had a brother or sister strarting at CU next year, what would you want the Core/MAPS to look like?"

[Student's major(s) listed before comment]


AMST

The old College List.



ANTH ELED

Less emphasis on Natural Science.  I would love to see a lower and upper 
division  Cultural &  Gender Diversity and Ideals & Values.



ANTH IAFS

The geography MAPS requirement is not very necessary because the geography 
courses aren't  beneficial.



ANTH

Reasonable how it is.  Math mods should be no longer.



ANTH

Not applicable.



BAAH

I think it's pretty good all around.



BAAH

It is just fine as it is.  I would encourage her to work on her MAPS stuff in 
high school, however.



BAAH

Perhaps some personal attention in advising.



BCHM PSYC

Same as I had.



BCHM

The same.



BCHM MCDB

Take it away.



BCHM MCDB

Continue the variety of courses that fit each requirement, so interests and 
courses can  be matched  for a variety of people.



BFAS

More classes.



BFAS BAAH

Not so much science.



COMM

I would rather have people be required to take a math class.



COMM

The Core is fine - the MAPS deficiency in geography is a real problem for a lot
of  people.



COMM

Get rid of Historical Context, U.S. Context, Contemporary Societies and Ideals 
& Values  - they are  a waste of time more than anything else.



COMM

Still too unsure about the U.S. system to say.



COMM

Less science, only one Literature & the Arts requirement, no Critical Thinking.



COMM

Similar - I would want some physical education included in there.



COMM

Pretty much the same, but I still question the history requirements.



DNCE

Less tricky requirements.  Things should be more clear cut.  More interesting
classes included in Core.



DNCE

More emphasis on the arts.



ECON

Less natural science.



ECON

Similar to how it is now.



ENGL

Better UWRP department.



ENGL

I think the Core is very useful.  I would tell them to start the Core early.



ENGL

Make MAPS easier to get exempted from.



ENGL

No foreign language; less science - 8 hours is plenty.



ENGL

I think the current one is working well with the exception of the sciences.



ENGL

The 13 credit hour requirement in Natural Science is excessive.  It seems
unnecessary.



ENGL

No comment.



ENGL

Same, but more selection of classes to choose from.  The general structure is 
valuable.



ENGL

I think that the MAPS requirements are fine, but I wonder how beneficial a 
written communication class is as a senior, which is the only time most people 
can actually get into one of the  classes.  An the area of study is generally 
not a high priority for the students.



ENGL

Not so many requirements you have to fill by taking a class with 1000 people and
more  hands-on  learning; we pay you enough money to afford it!



ENGL FINE

Have it more closely reflect the areas of study: make the classes so that they 
relate to a person's major area of study.



ENGL

Less hard science for liberal arts majors.



ENVS GEOG

More literature and the arts.



ENVS

The same - it's well-rounded.



ENVS PSCI

Reduce foreign language requirement.  It is ridiculous and frustrating for most
students.



EPOB

Stay the same, but more variety in Ideals & Values.



EPOB

Expanded, i.e. Cultural & Gender Diversity is too broad to cover with one class.



EPOB

I feel an art class would be beneficial to students - they would learn that
education can be relaxing!



EPOB

Math, science, history, writing, foreign language.  I suggest dropping some
culture, gender, ideals, values, literature, arts, societies.



EPOB

Have half the Core requirements.  It should be each person's own decision as to
how  well-rounded  they are.



EPOB

No geography requirement.  Where does this fit in?  The class was horrible, a 
waste of money and time.



FILM

Keep the gender diversity cultural as well as eliminate QRMS or math 
requirement.  Lower science to seven credits.



FILM

Less required courses, more open options.



FREN FINE

No geography, less science.  One studio art or theatre class as a requirement.



GEOG

Foreign language with 2 years of high school.  No UWRP.



GEOL

I wish s/he would go to a school that has its head screwed on right so s/he 
would not be deficient.



GEOL

I think it looks good, although it may be nice to learn about other schools 
(i.e.,engineering, architecture).



HIST

Same - no specific changes.



HIST

Less science requirements.  13 hours of science is a lot of science for 
non-science majors.



HIST

My brother is dyslexic and has Attention Deficit Disorder and is doing great in
theater school where UWRP (impossible for my brother) is not a requirement.



HIST

Get rid of MAPS, particularly geography.



HIST

Less math, less science.



HIST

Similar to present.  It would be more effective to involve some new 
requirements.  Personal Finance and Business Law would be some recommendations.



HIST

I think an oral communication requirement should be put in Core - very important
and overlooked.



HIST EDUC

I would actually include one more requirement in art.  For instance, I would 
love to have had an art class, or the room for an art appreciation course.



HUMN

I would like the Natural Science requirement to be 10 hours - I found it 
difficult to get the non-sequence classes I was interested in.



HUMN COMM

Same.



HUMN

Similar.



HUMN

It's fine - maybe less natural science.



HUMN

I would require an ENVS class, an elimination of QRMS, more foreign language or
at least a year of Spanish.



IAFS

They would not attend here.



IAFS

I feel this area needs a higher math requirement.



IAFS ECON

Subtract the GEOG requirement.



IAFS

Math, foreign language, English, science less than 13 hours (9 hours with lab),
Culture & Gender, Critical Thinking!, Ideals & Values, Economics.



IAFS

Same.



IAFS

Same, without the Quantitative Reasoning requirement.



IAFS

The only major change I would make would be to only require 8 or 9 (at the most!
)  Natural Science  credits.  Keep the foreign language requirements!



KINE COMM

More historical and literature courses required.



KINE

Same.



KINE

I think Core should have some consideration for the individual's major.



KINE

Not applicable.



KINE PSYC

Well, I think Core should be more closely related to major.  MAPS I think is 
good.



KINE

No geography MAPS because this is a ploy by the university for out-of-state 
people to stay at the university and give it more money!  The bureaucracy of it 
all!



KINE

Less requirements.  More applicable to major.



KINE

I do not believe Core curriculum is beneficial for anyone that knows what 
direction they are going in life.  Most of the classes for Core curriculum are 
a joke.



KINE

I think the Core could be bettered by trying new classes.  Give more options in
each Core section.



MCDB

Streamline the amount of Core requirements, cover the basics and allow for
breadth to come with individual interests.



MCDB

Same.



MCDB

Same.



MCDB BCHM

I'm not sure I would stress foreign language as much.  I certainly wouldn't want
them to waste time in UWRP (class issue, not necessarily the idea).



MCDB BCHM

More Critical Thinking classes.



MCDB BCHM

About the same as I have.



MCDB

More lenient as far as categorization.  I would want my brother to take classes,
outside  his major, he is genuinely interested in - not just to fulfill a 
required category.



PHIL

I would like to see some mandatory music requirements.



PHIL

No real opinion about any changes.



PHIL ANTH

Same.



PHYS

Same.



PSCI

More arts and literature classes.



PSCI

Have more advisors!! That's the main problem with the Core!



PSCI

Same.



PSCI IAFS

More language requirements.  No math (that should relate to major).  
More historical.  Less science  (should relate to major).



PSCI

Science MAPS - I took physiology, biology and chemistry in high school.  That 
should be enough  for MAPS.



PSCI

It is fine, except for Cultural and Gender Diversity.



PSCI

Nothing like it does now.



PSCI

For non-science majors there are far too many science requirements.  I'd drop 
the non-sequence courses.



PSCI

Same.



PSYC

Same, except for less science.



PSYC

Simplified and/or more detailed explanation of Natural Science.



PSYC SOCY

The same as mine was.



PSYC

Get rid of the geography MAPS requirement.



PSYC

Less natural science requirements for non-science majors.



PSYC

Focus more on "real life" skills such as writing papers.  Also, maybe add 
courses dealing with careers.



PSYC ENGL

I think they are just fine.



PSYC

I think it is all right the way it is now.  Maybe more emphasis on culture and
gender issues, because they are going to become even more important in the near
future.



PSYC

Leave out the geography requirement - not very beneficial.



PSYC SOCY

No Critical Thinking or foreign language.



PSYC

I think this is a good set up.



PSYC

A little more flexible towards what they are interested in, because the Core I 
wasn't interested in I did badly in, which lowered my GPA.



PSYC

Critical Thinking is too vague a category.



PSYC

I think it's a good blend of different areas of study, and I was please with the
requirements overall.



PSYC

Probably the same because I really didn't have a problem with it.



PSYC

The same.



SLHS

The MAPS are fine; however, I would like to see the Cultural and Gender 
Diversity requirement broken down.  (These are two very different issues and 
they should not be combined!)  If CU is really committed to diversity, it should 
separate these and require students to take at least 3 hours in each.



SOCY

Get rid of the geography requirement and add more options.  For example, if you
want  Maybe a little less Natural Sciences.  to go on to an upper division U.S. 
Context, then you can waive a different Core requirement.



SOCY

Everything except for the 13 credits for Natural Science: it seems just too much
for a non-science major.  And, UWRP should be taken off: the skills taught here
are not really necessary in most jobs out there.



SOCY

Less required classes.



SOCY

Same.



SOCY

Everything is fine, but I think a decrease in the number of hours for Natural
Science would be beneficial.



SOCY EDUC

I would only allow them to come here for upper [division' to save money on Core
requirements.



SOCY

Written Communication in the upper division comes too late to be useful.



SOCY

Overall I think it should stay the same.  I think it is beneficial because you 
have to take one of everything.



SOCY

MAPS is fine - there are enough requirements to ensure a solid background.  Core
is a little excessive - cut back some of the requirements.



SPAN

The same, but with much more available advising.



SPAN

I like it the way it is.



THTR

I would want them to have all of their MAPS completed because they are a pain!



THTR

Require Spanish specifically.



THTR

A more universal Core for the entire student body, that gives much broader
experience and exposure.  This is much more helpful than having to select such
specific courses.



WMST

I think the Core is very well balanced.  I have had few complaints about it duri
ng  my time at CU.



WMST

Be able to choose arts or sciences. I would change the amount of natural science 
requirements (make them lower).  Maybe just require a lower division natural 
science.  Many people who aren't science majors are very unmotivated to take a 
science course.





No Major Listed



Offer more courses that aren't so ethnically focused - and offer more courses in
general, so we don't have to wait until junior/senior year to complete most of 
our Core requirements.





Make more options that fulfill Core.





Take out geography.  It is very trivial for future knowledge and skills.



 
AMST

The SAS System                                                               263
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What would it be, how would you change it?
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Because people are required to take them, many of the lower division literature
classes have a lot of people that do not care.



ANTH

Make it easier to get in to see an advisor.  This means realizing whether a
person needs extra help.



ANTH PHYS

More options in what to fulfill



ANTH SPAN

Make it possible for a student to petition to get certain requirements waived.



BCHM

I would take Ideals and Values out of the requirements or offer classes other
than sociology and conflict-related courses.



BCHM

I don't think that upper division writing should be required for students who 
can't  get upper division writing in their major.



BCHM

I wouldn't have QRMS if you have to take math for your major.



BCHM

Mandatory public speaking class.



CHEM ENVS

Nothing.



COMM ADVT

Eliminate the Social Science MAPS requirement.  It is a redundant course.
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COMM

Foreign language - reduce # of semesters



COMM

Math shouldn't be required for A&S students.  They [math mods] should be 
optional for  someone  who might be interested.



COMM

Not applicable.



ECON PSCI

The UWRP is a mockery.  A horrible requirement and department, that is.  The
writing style forced on the students is detrimental.  Furthermore, the 
historical requirements are a huge waste of time.  I would change it by waiving 
it upon entrance,  granted the student has completed the courses in high school.



ECON

No lower division writing - too big of a pain to test out of, but the class over
all  was useless.



ECON ENVS

Make classes more flexible as to filling the requirements



ECON

No upper division writing.  I think that the basics should be taught freshman 
year  (ARSC 1100, for  example), then go on your own.



ECON IAFS

Not applicable.



ECON
The SAS System                                                               265
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If you could change one thing about the Core/MAPS requirements
What would it be, how would you change it?
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Skip geography requirement for people who had half a year in high school.  Did 
much  more for me  than the one at UCB.



ENGL FILM

Cancel UWRP - all of them! Make entrance application essay more challenging.
Cancel QRMS, cut science in half, add creative arts requirements.



ENGL HIST

The 2-year Natural Science requirement to a 1-year requirement.



ENGL

Obviously.



ENGL

Make students take lower and upper writing as freshmen.  Expository writing
skills are needed through college - not 8 months before graduation.



ENGL

Not as many science hours.  Q15



ENGL

Less science, no labs.



ENGL

No.



ENGL EDUC

No QRMS needed for English majors - who write all of the time anyway.



ENVS

Drop the MAPS requirement for geography.
The SAS System                                                               266
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ENVS

I would change requirements because a lot of classes I took didn't help me at 
all, they  just filled a requirement.  It took away from me being able to take 
other classes that I'd like better.  So  I'd make  less Core.



ENVS

Make Core classes pass/fail.



ENVS

Foreign language requirement should be changed to 2 years.



EPOB

I think it's a fair amount of work and covers necessary areas.



EPOB

Geography requirement was too restrictive - (only two classes could fulfill this
requirement).



EPOB

I was able to overlap PHIL 3140 [Ideals & Values] with my EPOB major, both in
subject matter and credits.



EPOB

Less Core requirements.



EPOB

Some classes that are only for Core are not taken as seriously as they should be
.



EPOB

The SAS System                                                               267
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Four years of foreign language and six credits of critical thinking.



GEOG

Ideals & Values, Critical Thinking and Cultural & Gender Diversity seem to
overlap a great deal.



GEOG

I would eliminate Core/MAPS.  If a student is mature enough to thoroughly
pursue a college education, then that student is mature enough to determine the
nature  and course of those studies.



GEOG

Take one class out of the science requirement - one non-sequence course.



GEOG

Be less anal about people who take geography in high school and let them bypass
the stupid  MAPS requirement.



GEOG

I don't know.



HIST

UWRP as one class.



HIST

Get rid of the foreign language requirement in MAPS - what's with that?  I
enjoyed my language, but it shouldn't be required.



HIST ENGL

Cut back on science requirements, and I also don't understand why there are such
strict guidelines
about how we choose to learn about literature or social science.



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HIST

More sections for some of the Core classes.



HUMN

Less science, more FINE.



HUMN

I though QRMS was useless and a waste of my time.



IAFS

The writing classes need to be more interesting or at least not so deliberately
boring.



IAFS

Fewer science requirements.



IAFS PSCI

Get rid of it.  Change it by not making people take so many Core classes, thus
causing people to be in school for more than 4 years.  I also mean summer class
in  extra school time.



IAFS

UWRP requirement.



IAFS SPAN

Less emphasis on Natural Science.



IAFS PSCI

Get rid of the geography MAPS - Many high schools have geography in other
history classes that aren't titled geography, so no credit is given.



IAFS FREN
The SAS System                                                               269
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It needs to be more challenging like the core requirements of MIT or the 
University of Chicago.  I partied hard and yet received a B- as my lowest grade.



ITAL

Drop math mods.



JPNS ASIA

Really my experience with Core wasn't bad; I planned ahead of time.



KINE EPOB

Require more Core work.  Education could be more general in those aspects.



KINE

Drop Geography and foreign language.



KINE

I would add a physical education requirement.  Have a golf class, for example.



KINE

There are too many history-type classes (Historical, U.S. Context, Contemporary
Societies) - we  should have a choice of one or two of these.



KINE

Get rid of Cultural & Gender Diversity.  I felt like it was a ploy to "open" our 
minds, but  it didn't do  that!



KINE

I just think that my college education should have been more centered on letting
 me  gain the knowledge that will most benefit my future.  Some requirements 
(i.e., Cultural & Gender  Diversity)  actually could damage my future (grades)!



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KINE

Cultural & Gender Diversity - not relevant to what I want to study.



LAMS

Natural Science - not so many.  Cultural & Gender Diversity more important in
today's society.



MCDB

No upper division Literature & the Arts.



MCDB

A better evaluation of transfer credit - meet with transfer students to discuss
classes taken that may fulfill requirements.



MCDB BCHM

Culture & Gender Diversity needs more classes to choose from (i.e., I'm not a
feminist, therefore my options are severely limited).



MCDB

Geography - No one takes this in high school so either the high schools should
require this or you shouldn't.



MCDB BCHM

I would like more flexibility in classes I can take.  I would have preferred, 
and benefitted greatly, taking some computer and business classes.  Because of 
Core I didn't have time, although I would have benefitted more from computer 
classes than  Core.



MCDB

Eliminate Critical Thinking.



MCDB

The SAS System                                                               271
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I would abolish them and have a more centered learning.



MCDB

Be able to get more credit if comparable classes were taken in high school.



MCDB

Make it more specialized for different majors within A&S.



PSCI

GEOG 1982 was a nightmare! Boring and not as significant as it could be.



PSCI

Provide wider base of Core required classes with larger registration 
availability.



PSCI

The geography requirement - it is a difficult class to get in to and turned out 
to be a pretty pointless class.  I have benefitted for all of my Core except for 
the Geography  course.



PSCI

Less Natural Science hours, less Literature & the Arts hours.  If someone really 
cares,  they can  major in it.



PSCI

I would get rid of the upper division writing requirement, especially if all 
that is offered  is UWRP. Either that or have UWRP really teach something 
besides basic writing.



PSYC

Natural Science; I understand it's a necessity yet feel 13 hours is a bit much.
It  would be best to lower it to just a sequence and lab.


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PSYC

More flexibility of when courses are offered.



PSYC

Cultural & Gender Diversity, Contemporary Societies and Ideals & Values
overlap quite a bit.



PSYC

The teacher makes a course - I would eliminate the teachers who do not care
about teaching and just wanted to get through the day.



PSYC

Offer more classes, or open more room in Core classes.



PSYC

Make UWRP courses smaller.  They are hard enough as they are.  There should
be 12 or less students, not 18 plus.



PSYC

Natural Science requirement: too much science required!



PSYC

Natural Science - should be easier to have classes transfer in, since we need so
many  credits.



PSYC BCHM

Better categorizing for classes as to what Core requirements they might fulfill.
How:  work with  professors.



PSYC

Drop the Historical Context requirement.  It is redundant of what we learned in
high  school.

The SAS System                                                               273
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If you could change one thing about the Core/MAPS requirements
What would it be, how would you change it?
Student's major(s) listed before comment


PSYC

Reduce the amount of classes needed; when there is no interest in the subject 
it is much harder to  want to learn.



PSYC

Inform high school students about MAPS.



PSYC ENGL

I would get rid of the QRMS requirement.



PSYC

I wouldn't change a thing.



PSYC

More!



RLST

Make at least two years of foreign language at the university level a 
requirement.



SLHS

Congratulations on accepting ASL as a foreign language.



SOCY

13 credits of natural science is unnecessary - 10 would suffice.



SOCY

Geography - most high schools don't offer it.



SOCY
The SAS System                                                               274
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MAPS should be able to complete before entering UCB, or should be exempted if 
not offered at  high school.



SPAN ENVS

The Human Geography course is ridiculous.  I would do away with it.



SPAN

I would make more MAPS/Core classes available.  Students sometimes have trouble
getting into  them.



WMST

I would make it easier to obtain the foreign language requirement and less
credits.



WMST

Minimize it.  This is college, not high school.  Math and science - please.  You
should offer physical education.  Those classes in which I had zero interest 
brought my GPA down.

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