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Part II: Focus Group Analysis
Each year
the Chancellor's Committee on Women (CCW) gathers and publishes demographic
information about women on the Boulder campus. In 1999 it was suggested
that we increase and develop the qualitative section of the Status of
Women Report (SOWR). Part II represents our initial attempt to provide
substantial and significant qualitative data in the form of the results
and conclusions drawn from four focus groups, held on the Boulder campus
in March 2000. The Office of Institutional Analysis within the Office
of Planning Budget and Analysis provided technical support and guidance
concerning the methodology used. Pending additional human and financial
resources, CCW anticipates refining and expanding the qualitative section
of the SOWR in future years.
We offer
below an analysis of the results of over two hundred pages of transcribed
conversations with faculty, staff, professional exempt staff, and student
women. We have chosen to emphasize several consistent themes that emerged
from the focus groups. We offer general comments on each theme, supported
by statements taken from the transcription of the focus group comments.
A copy of the complete transcript is available upon request from CCW.
Should members of the extended university community be interested in
collaborating with CCW to produce additional research, using our focus
group data, we would welcome such a collaboration.
Please
note that F refers to transcripts from the Faculty focus group session,
STF from the Staff group, PEX from the Professional Exempt Staff group,
and S from the Student group.
Employment and
Power Hierarchies and Segregation
Women
across the four focus groups perceive employment category hierarchies
throughout the campus environment, especially in terms of hiring, promotion
and respect accorded different job categories. This is particularly
acute in the case of the division between faculty and staff, a division
that, in some cases, transcends gender and, in other cases, increases
divisions among women (1). Staff members report that they are discouraged
from using their skills, skills that are in turn devalued (2, 3). Professional
exempt staff members express frustration and concern over similar issues,
citing the example that postings for administrative positions frequently
require faculty credentials. While job segregation is not unusual or
surprising in academic settings, one must ask whether or not the university
is best served by selecting faculty for the majority of upper-level
administrative positions, a situation that limits the pool of potential
candidates and effectively excludes most women (4, 5).
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If I was a female faculty, I wouldn't want to associate with a female
staff because I know that there is a staff-faculty hierarchy, and
already I'm having to prove to everyone else that ... I can do this
as a female faculty member. PEX-17-18:49-4
-
You come up with an idea and it's totally ignored, and then 5 minutes
later, one of those guys says, "Well, how about blah blah blah"? And
it's, "Oh, that's a great idea." PEX-16:23-26
-
The only problems that I've had have been ... entirely with male professors
treating me like a servant or something like that. And I'm not sure
if that's entirely a gender thing; I think it's definitely partly
the "I-have-a-Ph.D.-and-you-don't" thing. STF-10:25-30
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I don't necessarily think that people who are really good faculty
are really the best administrators. I mean, I think they're different
skills. And yet by saying it's faculty, you've immediately cut off
the majority of women on this campus. PEX-14: 17-21
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I mean, we only have 28 or 29 percent ... female faculty on campus
to start with, and most of those are in associate and assistant professor
positions. And so the pool of people who are in full professor positions
is very small, then, who can go on to be vice chancellors and presidents
and other things. PEX-14: 4-10
Women from
all focus groups are keenly aware that men continue to occupy most positions
of power within the university community (6, 7). Staff members, in particular,
raise the question of differential job expectations and differential
rewards between men and women (8).
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My experience in my workplace, where I've been for five years, [is]
that power is in the hands of men, generally. STF-5:33-35
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The top five [are all men]: President, Chancellor, and then the three
VCs. And I've only seen two women in that. And I don't know all the
details of what happened there. But some of what they were doing,
I think if it were men
--Yes,
right. Go for it.
that person is being real assertive, but because it was a woman
trying to assert some of those things, it was Bitch, bitch. I mean,
I really saw that. And there have only been two [women promoted
to high level positions] that I've seen in the last six years. STF-6:3-13
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I certainly did find myself doing much higher-level work than the
man in the next office who had a different title than I did and was
paid more. That has happened more than once. It's not at all uncommon.
If you are a man, you will be expected to be promoted much more quickly.
STF-9:41-46
By the
same token, faculty women comment that, although the faculty as a group
is perceived as powerful within the University community, faculty men
continue to administer most academic departments and the university
as a whole. As a result, faculty men wield more power and have more
control than faculty women (9). Faculty focus group members also feel
that the tenure system works against women (10), as do cultural "scripts"
(11) and the current Faculty Course Questionnaires (12, 13). Burnout
is also a serious issue for faculty of any rank (14).
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I think one point that maybe is at least indisputable in our department,
... [is that] certainly the people who are at a high level, in [department]
anyway, are all men. So if there are issues, gender issues that come
up, there isn't a woman's voice in there. ... Partly, I think that
that's because in this field it's just starting to get to the point
where women are more and more involved in it. And so, you know, there
aren't a lot of women who are 50, 60 years old who are doing the research,
in this field anyway. So it may have just been, again, by default
that that happened, that a lot of the more senior people are men,
and so they are the ones who are in the higher positions. F8: 42-50,
F9:1-5
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A huge thing that operates against equality or women's rights in this
university is the tenure system. ...You would have to be either the
most arrogant person on earth or more sure or more morally driven
or something pre-tenure to raise your voice against a male-dominated
(situation) or even a situation where it's just the squeaky wheels.
I think it's a real issue for women on this campus, the way the tenure
evaluation silences, makes women afraid. F11: 23-29, 44-46
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A lot depends on whether you reinforce their cultural expectations
or challenge them. I reinforce them, because I am very nurturing,
and I give extensions to everybody for everything. So they like me
quite well. But I have a ... female colleague ... [and] she gets all
these boys all the time challenging her .... She knows 10,000 times
more than they do, and she has to spend her time defending herself
against them, because she doesn't go with the script. ...[T]here is
a very popular male instructor who calls the students by their last
names, you know, Ms. so-and-so, Mr. so-and-so. He doesn't smile until
October. And ... they give him A+s. But I know if I tried to do that,
they wouldn't give me A+s. F37: 30- 44
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For me the problem with it is that no matter what the animus is, no
differentiation is made in the way [FCQ's are] used in evaluations
... It's a sham to say that the white male FCQs are just the same
as the minority or the women's FCQs, that it's a fair standard of
judgment. I know it's not the only one, but it is relied upon ...
with some heaviness. Along these lines of no accountability, ... if
you receive these FCQs and I don't know how many of us have
the ones that are that just have four-letter words or
stay with your clothing ... , they're another form of discrimination
that the university forces you to participate in. F 40: 18-31
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You read these forms and they're horrible; ... a handful of them are
hostile. And they're part of your permanent record, but you have this
experience. And I called the FCQ office, and they said, Oh, most women
don't read those anymore. ...They just look at the numbers. It's so
painful and ... there are so many four-letter words and so many personal
affronts that women have stopped reading these. That was from the
FCQ office. F 40: 31-39
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Burnout is probably the hugest teaching disease that there is and
maybe the least researched. But [teaching is] exhausting, and it's
high-pressure and demanding. People burn out. F35.30-33
Student
focus group members corroborate the perception of differential expectations
and rewards for faculty women (15, 16), and they concur with the faculty
focus group members that classroom climate often reflects differential
respect or recognition for faculty women and faculty men (17, 18). Students
and colleagues have differing expectations for faculty men and women,
both inside and outside of the classroom (19, 20, 21).
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I know in other departments that [male] professors that I've had contact
with ... generally receive a full professorship earlier and much more
easily. It's a big complaint among female professors that I have had
contact with. And their pay is often less as well. S5:49 -50/ S6:1-3
-
But they [women] definitely have to do more to become recognized than
the male professors. S5:23 Æ24
-
There are a lot of times I would say that students would associate
women with being teachers but men with being professors, because there
is the nurturing aspect of being a teacher and then there is the academic
respect that goes along with being a professor. S10:8 Æ12
-
Some of the things that I've talked to people about are the female
teaching faculty, how they've been treated by students as far as not
getting a lot of respect: being called by their first name, where
male faculty are always called Professor so-and-so; being called things
like bitch or having, you know, ... having them argue over points
with you just in class or in your office, things that you shouldn't
be challenged about or they feel a male faculty member wouldn't be
challenged about. F 36: 30-39
-
I think students are more likely to come and complain to me about
grades than they would to male professors. And they also expect me
to be nicer to them than they do male professors. F 36: 42-45
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I think my office mate, who is also a first-year post-doc I
feel like he ends up having to do less work than I do with the same
students, because they all expect me to help, and ... they expect
me to care. ... "You want to drop my class? Fine. I don't [have] to
hear you for 10 minutes. Give me the paper." He doesn't have students
spending as much time arguing for points. And it might be that sometimes
I'm astounded by what people will say to any teacher, but I feel like
if I just bought into the script. F 38:8Æ20
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I've wondered whether this has something to do with my being a woman,
that students seem to feel like they can tell me that their voice
is as important as mine. I don't think they could say that to a male
professor. We had a discussion in our department among the graduate
students and said, "Hey, you guys, have you had anything like this?"
" No." A lot of the female teachers, graduate teachers, are finding
this kind of problem, that for some reasons students seem to be wanting
to tell us where our place is. And that's not a very good climate
for teaching. S 6: 40-50/ S 7:1
Lack of
Female Presence
Lack of
female presence on campus is a serious concern to many women. When the
number of women in visible, upwardly mobile positions or positions of
power is small, it negatively impacts promotions, individuals available
to serve as role models. It also hinders the visibility of women's issues
and concerns, and the number of women who can act as liaisons between
departments and across campus divisions. Focus group participants indicate
that a scarcity of women affects their studies, careers, and work life.
Students note that a lack of female faculty translates into a lack of
support for research into issues that are important to women (22, 23),
and lack of representation and advocacy throughout the university (24).
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I think there aren't enough female faculty members, so that if you
want to do research on female concerns, the things that could touch
on women more than they would touch on men, there doesn't seem to
be a whole lot of support for that. S4: 29-33
- I
wanted to work on [research related to] children, but I've just given
that up, because there is no institutional support for it. It's not
one of those interests that seem to be supported by the courses we
take and the way the department defines itself. S4:39-43
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I'm a research associate, and I think that in some ways the situation
is maybe even worse [for research associates], in that for tenure-track
faculty there oftentimes ... [is] at least one woman who is a full
professor. For research associates, even for the men, there doesn't
seem to be a voice in the university, and ... so that's bad to begin
with. But then if you're a woman research associate, you're even lower,
and so there is basically no advocate for ... the women research associates
on this campus. F 14:9-18
Faculty
women are aware of the tremendous expectations and workload placed on
isolated women faculty, especially in mentoring women students. The
lack of women available to mentor students and junior faculty members
can contribute to higher attrition rates among senior faculty due to
overwhelming demands (25, 26); some women faculty are shared between
departments, which limits their presence and effectiveness in any one
given unit (27).
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Within a department, if you have ... one woman carrying the flag for
you, it's impossible to do all of that plus keep up your end of teaching
and research and ...what you're there to do. Because we have more
female students than male, most of the female students would love
to have a female faculty member as their mentor. Well, now you have
more "mentees" than you can handle. Committee assignments, there are
only so many women, and you try to balance your committees. You know,
that was something I hadn't thought about until someone pointed it
out: there are just too many ways to be stretched when you're one
of the few, to try to carry that burden. F13.42-50, F14.1-
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Of course ... when you are the only one, ... it's like being the only
minority. You hear more. The students come in, seek you out, and then
... you get it all, you just get it all. F 30:28-3
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In my department of [X], we have one very powerful senior woman, though
she has split her time between [department X] and [department Y],
so she's not as much of a presence in the department as she might
be. But she's been very important to me, because she was the chair
of my tenure committee and has been very much a mentor to me. F 10:10-1
Some participants
report being made uncomfortable by the apparent contradiction between
departments saying they want and value the diversity offered by women,
and the reality that women are largely not represented in positions
of prestige, power, or authority (28). In some departments, however,
women note a positive atmosphere, in which they sit on committees and
are respected by their colleagues, both male and female (29).
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But I wonder also sometimes that why I feel not so comfortable in
my department is this power dynamic, that I'm a post-doc and I'm here
to be doing research and ... the only other women in the department
are two women who teach [subject], [who] are never going to be tenure-track,
have small children, and came here because of their husbands. And
I almost feel like, yes, sure, you're saying you want us that
you want to be supportive of women or other people who are underrepresented
in [this field], but then there is such a clear difference between
the people who are serious researchers and then the women in the department.
F 12: 32-4
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I'd just like to offer a different point. One of the hats I wear is
with a group of research faculty in [department]. And I'm the only
female on that management committee. There are three other males.
And there have been times where they have been sensitive to language
... not trying to offend females, so I would like to speak up for
that. F12:16-2
The Glass
Ceiling
Women,
particularly in the professional exempt and staff focus groups, describe
the "glass ceiling" for women at CU. Perceived as distinct from sexual
harassment and overt gender discrimination, this glass ceiling prevents
women from reaching their career goals (30), from having professional
mobility within the University (31, 32), especially within the classified
staff system (33), and from fully utilizing their skills (34).
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I feel like I'm topped out. And the search to move, I find that very
frustrating, I find that difficult. STF-9:1-3
-
I get a sense that there is sometimes not an opportunity to move within
the university, and I don't know if that's just where my particular
field is, but I get that sense, that there is nowhere else to go.
If I wanted to try something different, that that may not be an option
for me. STF-8:8-13
-
On an individual basis, I don't experience a whole lot of sexual harassment
or even gender discrimination, but I feel like it's very institutionalized.
... In my current position, there is nowhere farther I can go in the
college; I'm as high up as I can go as a female staff member. PEX-6:1-11
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But the [flip side of the] security of [the classified system is]
feeling stuck, [as if] they've got us very tied up and tied down with
rules and regulations ... That also makes it difficult to move around
in order to take advantage of other opportunities. You have to do
some fairly creative things with staff personnel. STF-9:29-34
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Those of us who are secretaries and have been doing it for 20 years,
our college degrees don't really matter except that it allows us to
clean up the syntax of the faculty. STF-6:34-37
Staff
and professional exempt women also note a lack of career development
opportunities (35), and a lack of opportunities to participate in higher
level meetings (36). The glass ceiling presents itself as a real threat
to the University's ability to hold on to experienced women (37).
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And several of us have asked for ... some workshops, training, blah
blah blah, and it's repeatedly been ignored. So there is some blind
spot somehow that we don't need this. ... And we're saying, yes, there
[are] enough women here. They are strong women and they have voices
... but not at the decision making levels. PEX-12:5-10
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I think one confusing thing at CU is that there is such a hierarchy,
and if you're down here, you're not supposed to go to the Board of
Regents and present your plan, you're not supposed to go to the legislature,
you can't go to CCHE. PEX-8:26-30
-
And I have definitely felt the frustration of not being able to move
around at the university. In fact, I'm very much looking to leave
the university right now because of that. I don't feel like there
is anywhere for me to go. STF-10:21-25
Women
also expressed frustration with the campus' lack of maternity policy,
and noted the ways that maternity leave affects their careers (38, 39).
- I
would say that the benefit structure doesn't help maternity leave
very much. It's always a problem for the supervisor to handle maternity
leave and do it in a way that they're going to want to come back,
because you don't get support from HR at all. Staff personnel just
does not give any kind of flexibility: ..."What can we offer this
person to make her want to come back? What can we do as far as temporary
hirings ...?" STF-21:20-27
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I think one of the things that actually went okay for me and some
other people had trouble with was, the university doesn't have a uniform
or ... established maternity policy. [An administrator] tried to set
one up. I don't know how far she got. And I think she was kind of
on the right track in that she wanted to make it very flexible so
that you would pretty much be able to say what you wanted. And I think
it would be helpful to know what your options are. And in my case,
everything was fine. My son was born in May, so I had the summer off,
and I kind of negotiated a good deal with my department without a
lot of hassle. But it would nice to not have to think about it, to
have some policy that you go to that says, "Here are your options."
And it's up to you to negotiate with your department exactly how you're
going to do it, because the department didn't know what to do either.
F 28. 9-24
Climate
When asked
about their general impressions about the climate for women at CU-Boulder,
many women indicate feelings of ambiguity (40) and isolation (41). Women
voice a need for more support, and connection to other women (42).
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I can't say that I've actually myself experienced anything that I
would feel is negative because I'm a woman. I would also have to say
the situation is fairly unclear, though. This is the first time I've
ever been involved with any group that, you know, is talking about
the issues of women on campus. So I can't say that I'm very well informed.
I have my own personal experiences, but I don't know about all the
other women. F6:22-30
-
I'm pretty absorbed in my particular unit. But I would like to know
more about the greater part, the greater piece, than my simple part
of it. STF-5:40-42
-
There needs to be a support network in place. If you're going out
there as a lone ranger, forget it, you know; but if you've got alliances
within the job and also with an informal personal support network
to kind of encourage you and bolster you, that's very helpful. PEX-36:14-18
Lack of
Voice for Women
In all
four focus groups, women reflect on the lack of voice for women on campus.
Some women are concerned that women are often not heard or valued when
they do speak (43, 44). Some wrestle with the perceived need to censor
themselves to move ahead professionally (45, 46).
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I think that's true, but some of my experience is that I do say things,
and people don't care. ... I'm not listened to, I'm not heard. PEX-32:33-35
-
[Referring to a friend] and I knew what she was thinking. She is Latina.
And when she joined the faculty here, to the extent that she's been
able to join, ... somebody who was also a Latina, a more senior faculty
person said, "You know, you're going to give up your interests and
find the interests of the mainstream and get yourself heard." And
it really hurt her, you know. "What's wrong with my interests?" S28:17-23
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So you get stuck. Just so that you can get the voice, you have to
give up your voice. And I think that that's too bad, and I think that
that happens [here] on a regular basis. S 29:6-10
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But if you don't stand up for something, what are you at the end of
this seven years? Do you really want to be that person? Do you want
a job badly enough that you're just going to accept anything and not
when women come in and they have these for whatever
reason, a difficulty or a problem, are you going to be like everybody
else in your department and say, I don't believe you. You have a personality
conflict. Go resolve it. Are you just going to get rolled over? And
I think people have this decision to make: Do you just say, "Oh, well,
call me [deleted], and I'll just let it go." I always worry about
those costs. F33: 13-24.
Women
are also concerned that, although they often engage in self-silencing,
the protection of First Amendment rights on campus occasionally leads
to speech that is hateful (47, 48). Conversely, women express appreciation
of male colleagues who speak respectfully to them (49).
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There is this issue that comes up in my department that the guys think
they can say anything, talk down feminist theory, I mean, or anything,
anything at all, and they're protected by First Amendment freedom
of speech laws. That's what they will say. Well, I can call you this
name, because it's my freedom of speech. And the Supreme Court has
clearly said no to that, but, you know, faculty go into these arias.
And I think some clarification from the university that that's an
unsupportable position would also be really helpful. It's not about
your First Amendment rights; it's just not about being able to say
what you want, when you want. There are rules about these things.
But, you know, I don't think everybody knows it. F 29: 18 Æ 31
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People were talking about how it's so hard to be vocal when you're
still up for tenure, but I think the flip side of that is that then
some of these senior people can just say whatever they want, and I
think that makes the atmosphere really uncomfortable for everyone,
independent of gender. F32: 32-37.
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It sounds like you just must work with the most insensitive guys,
because my experience is so totally different. When I'm talking to
men, I mean, granted sometimes they slip, but they always catch their
slip. Now, maybe it's because I've turned bright red. But if they
ever say anything that they think would be the least offensive, they're
immediately apologizing profusely. F29: 34-40
Diversity
and Discrimination
While women
acknowledge that the university has publicly committed to including
more diverse populations within its community, the reality does not
always corroborate that commitment (50, 51).
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I think the administration feels as if they're doing all these really
good things vis-a-vis dismantling the old boy network, but the lower
levels don't always ... feel it trickling down. ... I think time is
on our side, because a lot of the old guard people have to retire
eventually [and] ... the junior faculty are more diverse .... But
it's a very long time to wait. F22: 48-50, F23: 5-6,10-12
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It seemed to me that it [a diversity plan] actually kind of got stopped
at the administrative level, and that it was the university who didn't
come back and really say, Okay, now, you guys can go ahead and actually
implement this. ... If the university administration does not tell
a department or institute to do something like that, at least given
the current nature of who's in control, it's probably not going to
happen. There are too many other things that are high priorities,
and unless, I think, people are told to actually do that, they're
not going do it. F23: 36-45
Discrimination
continues to occur on the CU-Boulder campus; focus group members particularly
note the existence of discrimination on the basis of culture, gender,
and age (52, 53), as well as stereotyping (54, 55, 56), both of which
produce an implicit double standard.
- It's
culture and gender. I've come across people who just assume that,
oh, being your ethnicity, being a female, you are this, quote, unquote,
stereotype, this subservient type of person ... And I've run across
that more times than I've ever seen on other campuses. PEX -7:8-14
-
I understand that from an age point of view. People think I'm still
a student here, but I'm twice the age I was when I was here, but I
just have that young look. And I get the feeling when people to talk
to me, there is a certain, you're more part of the student culture,
or you're younger and you're a woman. PEX-7:32-37
-
He said this was his way of apologizing I really want
to say, I want to compliment you, because I couldn't make you cry.
Usually when I deal with women, I'm able to make them cry. I got even
more mad. I'm still carrying that around, and it's been about two
years now. PEX-20:14-18
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Well, there is a double standard, because a woman is seen as radical
or liberal, or she's a bitch or she's outspoken or she doesn't know
what she's talking about. But men who are very critical are usually
acclaimed. S 20:49-50/S21:1-3
-
It was intentionally a support group. But after about a year or so,
we were talking about something, and I don't know, I was talking
about something, kind of insecurity or concern about something, and
I was looking for an adjective about how I was feeling. And he said
"Needy." Ever since then, my whole attitude toward him has changed.
I was crushed. PEX-35:10-16
Physical
Safety and Boundaries
Safety
assumes multiple guises on the Boulder campus. Students are particularly
concerned with physical safety (57), whereas staff members express anxiety
about economic safety. Staff positions often reflect a lack of clear
boundaries or rules in the areas of behavior, economics and physically
space (58, 59). The first expresses as the behavior required or expected
of staff while at work, as well as their lack of ability to negotiate
or refuse these often implicit requirements or expectations (60). Inappropriate
economic boundaries involve expectations that staff members work overtime,
often for less or no compensation (61, 62). And inappropriate physical
boundaries occur as a lack of private space within the office environment
(63).
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But I think that as a woman I don't necessarily feel safe on campus
after dark....And I think that they're negating the fact that women
don't feel comfortable, and they're ignoring the fact that women don't
feel comfortable on campus at certain hours, and I might not come
to campus and have the same access to the resources here because ...
I don't feel like my safety is provided for. S24:44-45; 48 -50/ S25:
1-3
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One of the things we talk about a lot is boundaries. It's kind of
a recurring problem for the people in my area. When is it okay to
say no? And some people find that easier than others. The official
policy is that we are there to be accommodating and to provide services,
no matter how weird they are. STF 14: 15 Æ 20
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That's interesting because it's made me think about how our front
office [who] answers the phones and [where] all the students come
into and we all come into constantly, and just realizing that that
person doesn't have any space. Whoever is in there at that moment,
their space is constantly invaded. ...If we make a private phone call,
... people hear, yes. That is a problem for the receptionist-type
staff all the time; ...there really is no clearly defined boundary
between you and your outside world or the people you're serving. STF-16:7-21
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That means each one of us is having to set our own boundaries as we
go, because there is no limit to the requests. If we do something
well, then the next request will be something even more. So we are
finding ourselves working for Administrative III salaries and creating
Web pages, for instance. STF-14:24-29
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A lot of the men I know, even if it's something that they enjoy, if
they see it as being something that they should also be being compensated
for, then they're much more likely to go for the compensation, whereas
women are more likely to say, "Oh, I can fit that in and not worry
about the compensation." STF 26: 30 - 35
-
Do you think those boundaries, when they are stretched, are because
of the job or because of the gender? Well, again, I don't know, I
can't tell. I do know that all the people I see having this problem
are women. Women are less likely to have real clear boundaries to
begin with, just because we are part of the greater society. ... We're
inclined to say that we want to be able to do this for whoever is
asking. STF-14:42-50
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And they have offices and you have cubicles. Yes. That's one of the
boundary issues: ... we have no space that is just ours. STF-15:18-21
Life Choices,
Children, Child Care
Women
note that life choices, and a lack of accommodation for these choices,
also makes it difficult for them to advance. Women who have children
are perceived as being held back in their careers and discriminated
against because of that decision. Some are frustrated by a lack of child
care options on campus because they perceive quality child care as necessary
for them to maintain a rewarding career path (64, 65). Faculty members
seem to have more flexibility in this regard (66).
-
But to me, that really is remiss, not to have a children's center
for the employees on campus. And I've got to imagine that that maybe
is because the administration is more male-dominated. I don't know.
I mean, as a mother, that would have been one of my priorities ....
There is nothing wrong with the children's center. It's great. The
teachers are wonderful, they have great activities, they take great
care of your kids. It's just that they're not financed highly enough
to actually serve the university community. F25: 35-45
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And why can IBM ... provide things like ... on-site day care? So if
these companies are doing this, well, somebody needs to take a look
at the university and say, ... "Because this is a business," and maybe
provide something like that. PEX-23:44-50
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And some of us are lucky. We can bring kids, and people don't
you know, if I bring my kids to work, I mean, I don't get as much
work done, but at least nobody says, "Gosh, you know, your kids really
can't be here." If I was in an administrative position, working in
the front office or something, I don't think there is any way people
in our department would go for it. F27.46-50,F28.1-2
The choice
to have children resonates beyond the lack of daycare. For example,
women students who are also mothers face additional challenges in the
classroom (67, 68).
-
[Student mothers] seem to be taken less seriously, because the teachers
or professors, assume that eventually they will just go home and stay
at home with their children, so this is just sort of entertainment
for now. This is only a hobby for them, because they don't really
need to work. Yes. This is never going to really be a career, because
you're a mother. S 31: 38 Æ 44
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And therefore, we don't have to hold you to standards, and we will
just let you get through. Besides, you're a nuisance, we need to get
you out of here, because you can't do all the things that we ask you
to do. This is always an issue, I think, for women with children.
It's funny, because there can be ... graduate students who are guys
with children don't get the same kind of brush-off [because they're
perceived as being] here because they're going to have a career. They've
got a family to raise. They get extra prestige and extra help. And
from what I've seen, the professors view it as more of a burden
on themselves than they do on the students. The professors think "But
I'm going to have to make special accommodations, I'm actually going
to have to think about this student and their situation." S31:49-50/S32:1-16
Sexual
Harassment
Focus
group members believe that sexual harassment exists, that it is difficult
to prosecute, and that potential victims are sometimes the targets of
additional legal actions by the University and/or disappear from the
University (69, 70, 71, 72). In some academic departments, harassment,
particularly of students, is not directly or adequately addressed (73),
whereas other academic departments actively pursue reported cases of
sexual harassment (74). The possible decrease in incidents of sexual
harassment may be due to lawsuits against the University (75, 76). Because
some staff focus group participants seemed unaware of existing training,
a lack of communication may exist concerning both the University's commitment
to sexual harassment training for all staff and faculty and the consequences
for ignoring or avoiding that training.
-
I did have someone come to me who said she was trying to support a
colleague's allegations of sexual harassment, and an administrator
tried to talk her out of that with the phrase, "Well, it wasn't like
it was rape or anything." So it makes you know that you don't want
to I mean, talk about diminishing the woman's views of whatever
action it was. She didn't say what it was. But you can see if two
faculty people tried to do something and had an administrator look
down on it, it must be horrible for a student to try to get through
that. F19: 18-28
-
But it seems I've heard of multiple cases and I've heard of many people
who have had sexual harassment cases and have just been absolutely
tormented. Every single chance that there was to go to court, the
university has taken them to court. STF 4:12-16
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The other person had so much power. So she didn't feel like she was
heard, and then just eventually kind of disappeared and left. STF-5:23-25
-
It's almost like, maybe, required training or something that people
will just kind of have to go through and learn a little bit more about
the issues, because I doubt if there are a whole lot of people who
actually sat down and read the sexual harassment guidelines from beginning
to end, and then even having done that, feel like they have a real
clear handle on what's appropriate, how to deal with it if it happens
to them or if they're accused of it. That might help some level of
relations on campus, if there was a little more information about
that. STF-22:4-13
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At some point every single semester I've been here, frequently more
than one, a young woman will come into my office in tears for the
abuse she has taken in this class. And the department's response is
inevitably to transfer the student out, you know, put like a wall
between this faculty member and the student, get a different class,
move the student over, make everybody be quiet about it. But I also
know that the response is going to be just one more time not to, you
know, actually deal with or discipline this faculty member but, in
fact, to sort of support this behavior. So one after another
but then students are revolving doors; in other words, they're here
but then they graduate, you know. So they're not still here with us,
so I'm like on stage and the new student, she thinks it's never happened
before, you know. F19:41-47,F20:1-8
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See, our department wouldn't tolerate that. There is just no way.
I mean, it just wouldn't happen. I don't know how ... pervasive it
is, but I know there are other departments where it's probably true.
But that kind of abuse of students, I don't see that happening at
all in my department. F20: 22 Æ23, 26-34.
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We have several male professors who won't close their office door
to have a private conference with a female student because they just
they're very worried that anything untoward, if there aren't
witnesses, could be used against them. They're also very insecure
about what they can do. STF-21:40-45
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But here in the university people are aware of what's appropriate
and what's inappropriate, and I'm very appreciative of that, that
I'm not having to dodge bullets. I think the recent lawsuits probably
prompted the awareness. It wasn't always like that, I think. I think
it depends on where you are, because I was a grad student for a while.
In my particular department there was kind of a lot of lechery, towards
female grad students especially, not that long ago. But I haven't
experienced sexual harassment either, as a professional on campus.
PEX-5:36-48
Strategies
When faced
with challenges and problems, some of which have been enumerated and
exemplified in previous sections, women adjust their styles and develop
skills to cope with difficult situations. One focus group member no
longer requests permission for her actions and decisions, instead she
communicates clearly and unequivocally with her co-workers (77). Another
describes how she counters inappropriate interruptions (78). When confronted
with abusive language, some women are proactive (79, 80, 81), while
others resort to effective escape mechanisms (82). Some women indicate
that they choose carefully which battles they will fight (83), while
others avoid conflicts as a strategy to get what they want (84). Some
women continue to evolve, adapt, and even fight to create a tolerable
working environment. While some are weary of the struggle (85), others
are optimistic that the environment and situation for women at CU is
improving (86).
- On
a personal level, within our division, on the whole I would say that
my experiences have been very - personal situations are respected,
and I've felt that long ago I went beyond the place of asking permission.
I simply now say what I'm going to do and when I will. And generally
that's respected. STF-11:28-37
- [Men]
do tend to interrupt a lot, and ... sometimes I feel like I've been
run over. But I've had to learn to just sit there and keep starting
to talk until finally they realize, "Wait, she's talking at the same
time that I am." But once I can actually say something, they seem
to be very respectful, which is nice. STF-18:20-26
- I
haven't been silent. That much is true. But I haven't ... really yelled
at anybody either, such as I can recall. I've been yelled at, but
I haven't yelled at anybody. My strategy ... in these arguments has
[been to] take notes right under their noses; I take down every word
they say. "Excuse me? Excuse me, I need that again." ... And then
I just record it. And that stops people who are going to swear at
you very fast, very fast. ...They can tell. "Where are you going with
that?" And you just don't answer. You don't have to. That's it. Then
they walk away. F34: 23-33.
- You're
going to choose who you are and how you're going to interact with
your students. One thing you can do is say, I'll be glad to review
your paper, but I may take off more points than give you back. Just
write up a description of what's wrong with the grading and submit
it to me. I don't want to discuss it until after I've had a chance
to look at it. That usually cuts down the number a lot. It's up to
you if you don't want them to come in. If you do if you want
to be nurturing and help them, that's great, because then you just
say, Come on in. I'll be glad to go over it with you. F 38:22-33
- ...
strange thing. But there are times, I think, that when women do stand
up for themselves that the men do notice and that they do respect
you more. PEX-35-36:49-1
- I
dreamed of consequences. I had these fantasies of just letting everybody
say what they wanted and then forcing them to write checks that would
hurt just enough. Fine. Call me a bitch. $500. Call me again. $500.
Thank you very much. I mean, it would stop if there were a consequence
for swearing at you in your face. FAC. 35:6-11
- If
you're basically honest and direct, sometimes there will be retribution.
And I guess I would say I'm a pretty direct person, and before I got
tenure, I don't think I would have come out in a faculty meeting and
said, "I think you're an idiot." But I wouldn't do that now either,
because I just don't do that. So, you know, you choose your battles.
If somebody calling you [deleted] bugs you, make it a battle. If it
really doesn't matter to you, then don't. I don't know. It's nice
when people make your life totally pleasant, and I guess everybody
has their own level of horribleness that they can tolerate. F33:50,
F34:1-20
- Then
you can go out and do those things [you really want to do]. But in
the meantime, you're just going to have to knuckle under and do things
so that someday further down the line you will have the chance to
do what you really want to do. So I'm kind of taking it that way,
but it still makes me feel as though I've given up too many battles
just to win the war. S27:43-48
- I
don't think I want to I don't think I want to fight this good
fight anymore, ...I just want to get out of here. S30:45-47
- But
every time there is a change, I think, "That's the reward. Now I can
move on, you know. There is a rule there. They're not going to do
that again. They're not going to talk to anybody else like that."
But it's hard stuff, it's really hard stuff. But you get very sensitive
to other women's problems. And the changes come too slowly. But we'll
see when this [report] comes out. I feel it's going to be good at
the end. F49: 16-23
Methods
A subcommittee
of CCW convened and ran the focus groups according to the guidelines
in David L. Morgan's The Focus Group Guidebook. Stratified random samples
from each of four groups (undergraduate and graduate students; classified
staff; professional exempt; and faculty women) were selected to form
focus groups. Most women were eager to participate. All of the women
from the professional exempt and faculty groups who were initially contacted
agreed to participate. Classified staff women were more reluctant to
participate and several cited overwork or fear of retaliation as reasons
to decline. The results from the small student group are hardly representative,
but they nonetheless provide powerful observations that corroborate
the concerns and themes expressed by the other three groups.
Each of
the four focus groups met during the first half of March, 2000. Seven
classified staff women, eleven faculty women, two graduate student women,
and ten professional exempt women participated.
The subcommittee
developed a series of questions that were used in each group as a way
to open the sessions and to encourage women to describe their experiences
at CU-Boulder:
- Opening
Question (quick answer, icebreaker): "How many women were in the family
you grew up in?"
- Introductory
Question (Open ended, general focus on topic): "Do you interact more
with men or women when you are on campus?"
- Transition
Question (more depth, broader scope): "How would you describe the
climate at CU for women?"
Three
additional questions had been designed to elicit further commentary,
but proved unnecessary. During all four sessions, women eagerly contributed
and were deeply interested in the conversations. All four sessions were
taped and full transcripts are available on request from CCW.
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